Supreme Court Decision May Cause Hobby Lobby To Close All 500+ Stores in 41 States…Pray For All The “Justices” To Make the Right Decision.

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HHOBBY LOBBY STORE

By: David Green, the founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

When my family and I started our company 40 years ago, we were working out of a garage on a $600 bank loan, assembling miniature picture frames. Our first retail store wasn’t much bigger than most people’s living rooms, but we had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God’s word.

From there, Hobby Lobby has become one of the nation’s largest arts and crafts retailers, with more than 500 locations in 41 states. Our children grew up into fine business leaders, and today we run Hobby Lobby together, as a family.

We’re Christians, and we run our business on Christian principles. I’ve always said that the first two goals of our business are (1) to run our business in harmony with God’s laws, and (2) to focus on people more than money. And that’s what we’ve tried to do.

We close early so our employees can see their families at night. We keep our stores closed on Sundays, one of the week’s biggest shopping days, so that our workers and their families can enjoy a day of rest.

We believe that it is by God’s grace that Hobby Lobby has endured, and he has blessed us and our employees. We’ve not only added jobs in a weak economy, we’ve raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full-time employees start at 80% above minimum wage.

But now, our government threatens to change all of that.

A new government healthcare mandate says that our family business MUST provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance.

Being Christians, we don’t pay for drugs that might cause abortions, which means that we don’t cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill. We believe doing so might end a life after the moment of conception, something that is contrary to our most important beliefs.

It goes against the Biblical principles on which we have run this company since day one.

If we refuse to comply, we could face $1.3 million PER DAY in government fines.

Our government threatens to fine job creators in a bad economy.

Our government threatens to fine a company that’s raised wages four years running.

Our government threatens to fine a family for running its business according to its beliefs. It’s not right. I know people will say we ought to follow the rules; that it’s the same for everybody. But that’s not true.

The government has exempted thousands of companies from this mandate, for reasons of convenience or cost. But it won’t exempt them for reasons of religious belief.

So, Hobby Lobby and my family are forced to make a choice. With great reluctance, we filed a lawsuit today, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asking a federal court to stop this mandate before it hurts our business.

We don’t like to go running into court, but we no longer have a choice. We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit.

My family has lived the American dream. We want to continue growing our company and providing great jobs for thousands of employees, but the government is going to make that much more difficult.

The government is forcing us to choose between following our faith and following the law. I say that’s a choice no American and no American business should have to make.

The government cannot force you to follow laws that go against your fundamental religious belief. They have exempted thousands of companies but will not except Christian organizations including the Catholic church.

Since you will not see this in the liberal media, please pass this on to all your contacts.

Sincerely,
David Green
CEO and Founder of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

http://www.teapartycrusaders.com/u-s-politics/hobby-lobby-may-close-500-stores-41-states/

Article submitted by: Veronica Coffin


157 Responses to “Supreme Court Decision May Cause Hobby Lobby To Close All 500+ Stores in 41 States…Pray For All The “Justices” To Make the Right Decision.”

  1. Glena Ferguson

    Rich Kolasa What does the First Amendment have to do with allowing your employees access to healthcare that the insurer provides to everyone else?

    Better check out that Constitution there, seems you might not know what you think you do.

    Free speech has nothing to do with health insurance.

  2. Glena Ferguson

    Dara Keeton Tell me exactly where in the Constitution it says you shall not be made to have health insurance to benefit all citizens. It's not in the Constitution. Just stop trying to ride that Patriot Train because it doesn't stop here.

    It's about some people who think they are supposed to be the moral majority police for EVERYONE. In this Country we have free will. Corporations are NOT people and should not supersede the rights of an employee to have whatever medical coverage an insurer provides.

    They are NOT against abortion or they wouldn't be heavily funding forced abortions, late term abortions and all manner of abortions by spending billions of dollars in Countries that promote and use those dollars to provide those abortions.

    You don't get to say your moral against something on one end but be completely accepting and embracing of it when it makes you money on cheap products.

  3. Glena Ferguson

    Matthew J Brock Explain to me if this is such a moral issue that they must stand true to their beliefs, why in the world was it not an issue at all until the ACA was passed.

    The employees of HL were offered health insurance as part of their EARNED benefits package. Birth control was part of the coverage the HEALTH INSURANCE company had in their policy.

    In essence HL is trying to control their employees morals and reproductive health. That is not the job of any employer, big or small.

    You want to talk about slippery slopes, if an employer can dictate what kind of medication an employee can get or not, they will begin to make attempts at how the money is spent. There is precedent for that. Check out what happens if Walmart employees shop other places. Maybe you are not familiar with the Company Stores of the Coal and Oil Company's who basically took the employees check and they decided what they would spend it on. Unions fixed that. Maybe that's what's needed here.

    Again, HL is as surely funding abortions, forced abortions and late term abortions by spending billions in China as they MIGHT be if their employees have a comprehensive healthcare plan that covers emergency contraception. Which is NOT abortion by the way. Read up on it. But in China, yeah, that's abortion and they have no problem giving dollars to that.

  4. Glena Ferguson

    Matthew J Brock Explain to me if this is such a moral issue that they must stand true to their beliefs, why in the world was it not an issue at all until the ACA was passed.

    The employees of HL were offered health insurance as part of their EARNED benefits package. Birth control was part of the coverage the HEALTH INSURANCE company had in their policy.

    In essence HL is trying to control their employees morals and reproductive health. That is not the job of any employer, big or small.

    You want to talk about slippery slopes, if an employer can dictate what kind of medication an employee can get or not, they will begin to make attempts at how the money is spent. There is precedent for that. Check out what happens if Walmart employees shop other places. Maybe you are not familiar with the Company Stores of the Coal and Oil Company's who basically took the employees check and they decided what they would spend it on. Unions fixed that. Maybe that's what's needed here.

    Again, HL is as surely funding abortions, forced abortions and late term abortions by spending billions in China as they MIGHT be if their employees have a comprehensive healthcare plan that covers emergency contraception. Which is NOT abortion by the way. Read up on it. But in China, yeah, that's abortion and they have no problem giving dollars to that.

  5. Glena Ferguson

    Matthew J Brock Explain to me if this is such a moral issue that they must stand true to their beliefs, why in the world was it not an issue at all until the ACA was passed.

    The employees of HL were offered health insurance as part of their EARNED benefits package. Birth control was part of the coverage the HEALTH INSURANCE company had in their policy.

    In essence HL is trying to control their employees morals and reproductive health. That is not the job of any employer, big or small.

    You want to talk about slippery slopes, if an employer can dictate what kind of medication an employee can get or not, they will begin to make attempts at how the money is spent. There is precedent for that. Check out what happens if Walmart employees shop other places. Maybe you are not familiar with the Company Stores of the Coal and Oil Company's who basically took the employees check and they decided what they would spend it on. Unions fixed that. Maybe that's what's needed here.

    Again, HL is as surely funding abortions, forced abortions and late term abortions by spending billions in China as they MIGHT be if their employees have a comprehensive healthcare plan that covers emergency contraception. Which is NOT abortion by the way. Read up on it. But in China, yeah, that's abortion and they have no problem giving dollars to that.

  6. Patricia Newman

    What about your employees beliefs? Do they have to have the same as you? Do you only hire people with the same beliefs as you? Smh…

  7. Patricia Newman

    What about your employees beliefs? Do they have to have the same as you? Do you only hire people with the same beliefs as you? Smh…

  8. Susan Dyer

    Michael L. Hoenig Jeff's an idiot.

  9. Susan Dyer

    Jeff Sullivan Well if the money is that important to them, then they are obviously hypocrites. Because their #2 most important goal in the above article says they are for "putting people before money". Obviously they don't — not their customers nor their employees. If they are so afraid of loosing that money, then obviously money is the bottom line for them. That's what they want. So again, let them go out of business. Take their profits and run….. and close. Good riddance.

  10. Dara Keeton

    And their religious beliefs are exactly what this Country was founded on. I do wish people would learn American History before they begin running sewage pit mouths. The Government we have today is attempting to destroy the American dream, wake up.

  11. Tamara Lindberg Roberts

    So sad to see what our country is becoming! But proud of Hobby Lobby for standing for what they believe in. I'll shop at Hobby Lobby!

  12. Glena Ferguson

    Jeff Sullivan I'm saying it's not my employers business what I do with my healthcare, what procedures I have nor what medications I take. Period. Health Insurance nearly always has an employee contribution which is their direct dollars and the portion that is "paid" for by the employer is considered an EARNED WAGE benefit. You earn healthcare benefits by the hours you work. It's yours, they can't and shouldn't be able to tell you what to do with the benefit.

    Condemning them for their trading partners if valid. If they claim this is all about their morals and values, then they wouldn't be supporting abortion in China and directly paying for it. Many of those abortions are even FORCED abortions. They have no qualms about providing money for that because they make money of the goods they buy cheaply.

    You can't claim morality over your money on one side and freely dish it out on the other side.

    It doesn't fly. It's like me saying I would NEVER have an abortion because it's wrong. Unless of course I get one in a foreign Country then it's perfectly OK with my moral standards.

    Why hold their employees to a different moral standard than the people they spend billions of dollars with?

    Either you're against it for moral reasons or you're not. They are not.

  13. Dara Keeton

    Then by all means you should choose somewhere else to shop. They use their Christianity to follow Gods law and not that made of man. Forcing companies to mandate this is against the Constitution which maybe you are not familiar with. I am glad your mom chose not to abort you. God bless and maybe you will see the light soon.

  14. Susan Dyer

    Michael L. Hoenig THANK YOU!

  15. Susan Dyer

    Michael L. Hoenig THANK YOU!

  16. Susan Dyer

    Jeff Sullivan and yet still their #2 motto above says they are about PEOPLE FIRST and money second. Yeah right. They are DYING thinking they might loose $1.3B. Hypocrites.

  17. Susan Dyer

    Ruby Durbin that was the last time! I put that merchandise down and walked out.

  18. Susan Dyer

    Ruby Durbin that was the last time! I put that merchandise down and walked out.

  19. Heather Mitchell

    Mr David Green, You are an awesome man of God and I absolutely agree with what you are choosing. I also dont agree with the pregnancy pills or abortion. I am 19, married with a daughter of a year and a half old. She changed my life for the better, and if it wasnt for her, my husband and i wouldnt have gotten married and i wouldnt have this wonderful Man of Christ running our home and loving me the way God loved the Church. There isnt a day that goes by that i could cry thinking about how my life would have been without my daughter who was the first domino of this gorgeous picture of my life. What women dont understand is that when something happens, it may look bad at the time and only God can see the big picture, we just need faith and believe that God will bring good to us. A child can change your life for the better if you allow it.
    So dont believe what Satan is telling you through these unfaithful yahoos because they are not words from God. You are a great man who has raised a great family. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise! I will back you no matter what God tells you to do. I will pray for you and your family. God Bless :)

  20. Michael Dollins

    Some lines need to be drawn on Government intrusion into our lives

  21. Michael Dollins

    Some lines need to be drawn on Government intrusion into our lives

  22. Michael Dollins

    The government should have no say in the employee benefits they PROVIDE their employees-NO SAY

  23. MaryAnn Tressel Ulrich

    susan, all of the stores do this…all the large stores…they say it has to be a certain price, not one penny under. don't blame hobby lobby, like I said all big stores do this….

  24. MaryAnn Tressel Ulrich

    susan, all of the stores do this…all the large stores…they say it has to be a certain price, not one penny under. don't blame hobby lobby, like I said all big stores do this….

  25. Nancy Rollins

    I think that it is pathetic that Hobby Lobby, which has been around forever, is being driven under by a President that never should have been in the White House in the first place, pushing a failed healthcare plan that no one wants which forces people to pay for insurance they don't want, can't afford, and without the doctors they choose to go to….all because they have to pay for inflated absurd crap that THEY WILL NOT USE and do not believe in. This president IGNORES the Constitution and if we don't get him out of the White House we are going to be lucky if there is a country left by 2016. He is trying to destroy every last exceptional factor of it. He doesn't care if Hobby Lobby goes under BECAUSE they have morals and values and believe in Jesus Christ and not in some Muslim faith. It is the same reason he pushes SO hard for amnesty to pass…and "he has a pen" because the tides are turning against him and so he has to have a group of "indentured servants" that owe him too much to escape his orders to vote as he says. I would HATE to see Hobby Lobby close, but I totally understand it.

  26. Gary Campbell

    You are a business, not a church. You discriminate against other religions and you are bigots. Who are you to judge other people? You can't serve only Christians. You are not a church. You are sinners and conduct yourself against God's will. You need to shut it all down.

  27. Michael H. Dawson

    Hypocrites and liars. This article is nothing but spin and Glena said they have no problem working with and contracting with sinners and heathens when its needed for their bottom line.

  28. Michael L. Hoenig

    Jeff Sullivan What kind of misogynistic fool believes a rape-baby is a "blessing from 'God'"?

    Are you serious?

    Would you still believe that way if your twelve-year-old daughter was attacked and raped by a classmate?

    You would force your CHILD to carry that baby to term, risking not only your CHILD'S life during labor and delivery, but her mental health as well?

    You would force your CHILD to care for the CHILD of the CHILD or CHILDREN who brutally raped her?

    For the rest of her life?

    Do you have even one shred of knowledge of how rape affects women? And then to have your CHILD try to love that reminder of the horrific event(s) that brought this unwanted, unloved CHILD into the world?

    One or both of those CHILDREN will be dead before your daughter turns 18. Pretty much guaranteed.

  29. Mike Learn

    Glena Ferguson , how much can that pill cost? Does it need to be covered by all of us?

  30. Al Fleming

    Abortion is not health care.

  31. Susan Brown

    Tony, so any employer can control what you buy with your compensation? If they oppose transfusions for religious reasons, it's ok for you to bleed to death? Don't want them to violate their conscience by having transfusions covered in the health insurance.

  32. Michael L. Hoenig

    So close your stores, you bigoted, racist, misogynistic, stone-age jackasses. We won't miss you.

  33. Jeff Doneth

    Glena, By your logic they should not do any business in the USA since abortion on demand is the law of the land. Their employees are "at will employees" If they aren't happy with their benefits the can work for someone else. Benefits from an employer are a perk to keep good employees. NOT A RIGHT.

  34. Michael Speciale

    Ah, so many liberals with their utopian talking points and their silly belief that one truly can pick a turd up from the clean end! Government has NO authority to enact obamacare. Those of you who believe it is ok for the government to force hobby lobby to pay for and provide ANYTHING to their employees have no idea about America, Liberty, or economics. My point is that the only acceptable substitute for knowledge is silence!

  35. Uss La Salle

    When are people going to learn that religion is nothing but a hoax? The bible is nothing but a fairy tale.

  36. Matthew Franges

    Old news or not. Bless you for your belief, & stance.

  37. Kathy Murphy

    Jeff Sullivan, but they don't have a problem paying for viagra, so what about a limp d**k is important health care??? Food for thought!!

  38. Kathy Murphy

    Jeff Sullivan, but they don't have a problem paying for viagra, so what about a limp d**k is important health care??? Food for thought!!

  39. Kathy Murphy

    Jeff Sullivan, but they don't have a problem paying for viagra, so what about a limp d**k is important health care??? Food for thought!!

  40. Steve Large

    Count your money smile & laugh… Write letters to get people worked up…threaten to close your stores…get more people worked up and REPEAT or since you think providing these drugs is a sin PRAY…Dear Lord I know this goes against your Will

  41. Steve Large

    Count your money smile & laugh… Write letters to get people worked up…threaten to close your stores…get more people worked up and REPEAT or since you think providing these drugs is a sin PRAY…Dear Lord I know this goes against your Will

  42. Pat Warden

    Go cash your welfare check, LEECH!

  43. Pat Warden

    Go cash your welfare check, LEECH!

  44. Ruby Durbin

    Susan Dyer, but apparently YOU had no problem buying from them…except for pricing?

  45. Andrew Mesch

    Why is it a crappy reason to shut down if you believe you cannot do business in a way that you want ? These people believe their freedoms are challenged so they are challenging back. They never said they would close specifically, they just said they are fighting it in Court. It is not about what they believe , but the right to practice what they believe.

  46. Susan Dyer

    I dislike Hobby Lobby because of their false advertising, misleading advertising, and over-priced selections on all of the items they import from China. If Hobby Lobby wants to protest against the US Government, then they should quit importing all of their goods from the Chinese who have children working as slave labor and adults working for $1.00/per day. That is really Christian isn't it????

  47. Susan Dyer

    I dislike Hobby Lobby because of their false advertising, misleading advertising, and over-priced selections on all of the items they import from China. If Hobby Lobby wants to protest against the US Government, then they should quit importing all of their goods from the Chinese who have children working as slave labor and adults working for $1.00/per day. That is really Christian isn't it????

  48. Susan Dyer

    I dislike Hobby Lobby because of their false advertising, misleading advertising, and over-priced selections on all of the items they import from China. If Hobby Lobby wants to protest against the US Government, then they should quit importing all of their goods from the Chinese who have children working as slave labor and adults working for $1.00/per day. That is really Christian isn't it????

  49. Susan Dyer

    Chris Wilson I dislike Hobby Lobby because of their false advertising, misleading advertising, and over-priced selections on all of the items they import from China. If Hobby Lobby wants to protest against the US Government, then they should quit importing all of your goods from the Chinese who have children working as slave labor and adults working for $1.00/per day. That is really Christian isn't it.

  50. Jerry Dean Jewell

    NOT very Christian like, putting people out of work, and denying affordable health care for women who may need it? Hypocrites!!

  51. Lisa Russ Ratley

    I'm more than willing to wave goodbye to a company that refuses to provide health insurance that covers birth control for their employees. Bye Hobby Lobby….

  52. Beverly Neal

    Don't know where you get your info…they offer their employees great insurance. Neither are they anti-Semitic.

  53. Chris Wilson

    Susan Dyer you are a idiot period. you are mad at them because of candy, pretty pathetic.If that is all you got on hobby lobby then you really got nothing.

  54. Chris Wilson

    Susan Dyer you are a idiot period. you are mad at them because of candy, pretty pathetic.If that is all you got on hobby lobby then you really got nothing.

  55. Ali Casielles-Hobson

    It may be old news to you but it's the first I ever heard of it.

  56. Ali Casielles-Hobson

    It may be old news to you but it's the first I ever heard of it.

  57. Patty Nardi

    Actually, I don't have my blinders on. You are absolutley right, because both parties have an agenda, and it is not in the best interest of the American people. We need leaders that love our constitution, and vote out anyone who has voted against any part of it. Assuming the people really do get a vote.

  58. Patty Nardi

    Actually, I don't have my blinders on. You are absolutley right, because both parties have an agenda, and it is not in the best interest of the American people. We need leaders that love our constitution, and vote out anyone who has voted against any part of it. Assuming the people really do get a vote.

  59. Susan Dyer

    Marvin Casteel OOOOHHHH "name calling" — that's the best you got? I digress.

  60. Susan Dyer

    Marvin Casteel OOOOHHHH "name calling" — that's the best you got? I digress.

  61. Janyce Cole

    Jordan Hoover good for you

  62. Ramona Lynn Liddell

    Buying alcohol is Not healthcare. If a company is paying for healthcare they do have a right Not to pay for anything that ends the life of an unborn or born child. Just because a company has good morals and disagree with baby butchers doesn't mean the government can force them to go against their religious beliefs. The government has no right to infringe on anybody's religious beliefs. Abortion is not the answer, adoption is. There a good people who would be happy to save a baby's life and love and cherish that baby like all babies should be loved and cherished. You were allowed to live.

  63. Becky Chamberlin

    NOTRE DAME IS A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY WITH STRONG RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ABOUT CONCEPTION AND BIRTH CONTROL………NOTRE DAME IN INDIANA FOUGHT THIS AND I BELIEVE THEY WON…….SO HOBBY LOBBY MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF PUSH COMES TO SHOVE….HAS HOBBY LOBBY CONSIDERED JUST DROPPING THEIR HEALTH CARE COVERAGE?

  64. Becky Chamberlin

    NOTRE DAME IS A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY WITH STRONG RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ABOUT CONCEPTION AND BIRTH CONTROL………NOTRE DAME IN INDIANA FOUGHT THIS AND I BELIEVE THEY WON…….SO HOBBY LOBBY MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF PUSH COMES TO SHOVE….HAS HOBBY LOBBY CONSIDERED JUST DROPPING THEIR HEALTH CARE COVERAGE?

  65. Becky Chamberlin

    NOTRE DAME IS A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY WITH STRONG RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ABOUT CONCEPTION AND BIRTH CONTROL………NOTRE DAME IN INDIANA FOUGHT THIS AND I BELIEVE THEY WON…….SO HOBBY LOBBY MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF PUSH COMES TO SHOVE….HAS HOBBY LOBBY CONSIDERED JUST DROPPING THEIR HEALTH CARE COVERAGE?

  66. Matthew J Brock

    Glena – you're fundamental logical flaw in your post is not considering the difference between directly and indirectly supplying something.

    Let's take your alcohol example. You are making an inequitable comparison between the alcohol and contraception.

    It is far different to give someone a paycheck and they then go out and purchase alcohol with it, and to pay that person in alcohol directly rather than money.

    The Obama administration is playing fast and loose with how and what they enforce or exempt, and to whom they dispense these favors of non-compliance. When the organization goes from being their buddies or those who share their ideology to religious, suddenly they find it necessary to dig in their heels and not budge. That's where the problem is.

  67. Ted Skibinski

    Why did the Muslims get what they needed for their belief / BUT Christians can't ? Discrimination ?

  68. Till Nyman

    Your believes are your own private decision, don't force them onto your employees or worse: Government. Islam does that – you want that?! Besides: The morning after pill is NOT an abortion pill, it's contraception! Otherwise you might call a condom an abortion bag! Impregnation has NOT happened at that point in time. For a rape victim it's either the morning after pill – or an actual abortion! What do you prefer? Plus: You try to claim you do good in tough economic times, and always putting people first, yet you threaten hundreds of employees with consequences that may ruin their life and that of their children, because you can't get over yourself and read a bloody science journal. In the US there is freedom of religion, and it is NOT your choice what medication your employees should have access to or not, if they are christian, and agree with your views they will not use that pill anyways. What are you afraid of? Get out of other peoples bodies and bedrooms! FREEDOM – you want to eradicate it!

  69. Claudia Cayne

    I think they should close. They use their christianity as an excuse not to comply with employee insurance. They are anti-Semitic and in todays world that ignorance shouldn't exist. We have plenty of other options today

  70. Claudia Cayne

    I think they should close. They use their christianity as an excuse not to comply with employee insurance. They are anti-Semitic and in todays world that ignorance shouldn't exist. We have plenty of other options today

  71. Anonymous

    Jeff Sullivan

    YOU don't think of it as a punishment, yet your exact words were "you make your bed, now you need to sleep in it."

    What may be a blessing to you, may not be a blessing to others. Why do they have to consider it a blessing? Why is it any of your business? Why should someone have to support a child that they might not be able to support? Why put that burden on someone when they aren't ready?

    And why didn't you answer me on the other part about emergency contraception having nothing to do with an actual abortion?

  72. Rich Kolasa

    Susan Dyer Yeah, you are. Read the First Amendment, fool. So, should atheist groups be forced to buy rosary beads for people, idiot?

  73. Jeff Sullivan

    greenman8907, I don't think of it as punishment, its the most amazing blessing a woman can receive, whether they realize it or not. What is at play here is personal responsibility, and the ever dwindling supply of it here in our country. Our country is Land of the free and home of the handout, deserved or not.

    And having to pay $1,3 million dollars a day doesn't make it a money issue, it makes it an existence issue, because there is no way the company could possibly sustain a loss of that size and still remain solvent.

  74. Jeff Sullivan

    greenman8907, I don't think of it as punishment, its the most amazing blessing a woman can receive, whether they realize it or not. What is at play here is personal responsibility, and the ever dwindling supply of it here in our country. Our country is Land of the free and home of the handout, deserved or not.

    And having to pay $1,3 million dollars a day doesn't make it a money issue, it makes it an existence issue, because there is no way the company could possibly sustain a loss of that size and still remain solvent.

  75. Anonymous

    Jeff Sullivan

    And one other thing. Can you explain why Hobby Lobby was just fine with covering contraception UNTIL it became a part of the ACA (i.e. Obamacare)?

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/27/obamacare-contraception-supreme-court-religious-freedom

    If that were the case, then Hobby Lobby could argue that they don't have to pay their employees as they could still use the money from their paycheck to purchase contraception, or any other item/activity that goes against the CEO's beliefs.

  76. Eric Palfreyman

    Glena Ferguson It's not up to you to decide WHAT health insurance H.L. or any other free business provides. The free market exists and if you don't like their Health Insurance, go somewhere else. If a business provides a benefit, it is up to the business to decide what benefit it will offer. What happens in China is China's issue. Hobby Lobby is concerned about their FIRST AMENDMENT right to exercise their religion how they understand it–not how you or Obama understand it.

  77. Eric Palfreyman

    Glena Ferguson It's not up to you to decide WHAT health insurance H.L. or any other free business provides. The free market exists and if you don't like their Health Insurance, go somewhere else. If a business provides a benefit, it is up to the business to decide what benefit it will offer. What happens in China is China's issue. Hobby Lobby is concerned about their FIRST AMENDMENT right to exercise their religion how they understand it–not how you or Obama understand it.

  78. Marvin Casteel

    Susan Dyer – you are wrong plain and simple on SO many levels, go get a LIFE FOOL!

  79. Anonymous

    Jeff Sullivan

    You do realize that emergency contraception does not abort a baby, right? It prevents the egg from even being fertilized. There is no embryo.

    And I love how you consider having a child as punishment for having sex. That's exactly how children should be brought up. As mistakes.

    And you've already judged them. Don't pretend like you didn't. You want them to have that baby as a punishment.

    Ohh, and yes it has everything to do with money as they are currently suing to avoid paying $1.3 million in fines a day.

  80. Tony Hemmelgarn

    Glena Ferguson , you're only partially correct in your thinking. Yes, the employees health insurance is a benefit they earn by working. However, since Hobby Lobby is their employer and provides that insurance at a discount (in case that evades your thinking, by paying a big portion of it), they also have the right to decide what is covered by the policy.

  81. Tony Hemmelgarn

    Glena Ferguson , you're only partially correct in your thinking. Yes, the employees health insurance is a benefit they earn by working. However, since Hobby Lobby is their employer and provides that insurance at a discount (in case that evades your thinking, by paying a big portion of it), they also have the right to decide what is covered by the policy.

  82. Susan Dyer

    Rich Kolasa I'm not the "fuckhead". As I read it here, Hobby Lobby is. They will be the ones putting people out of work for their religious beliefs.

  83. Jean Reinert

    How very sad for you.. And I totally agree with everything you said.. Hopefullit will turn aroundso you will not have to close the doors of Hobby Lobby

  84. Jeff Sullivan

    Glena Ferguson, so what you are saying is that this is only covered in your health plan in the event you get raped? Yeah, right. But nice try to defend an indefensible position. This drug is 99% used to kill an inconvenience due to poor judgment, plain and simple. If they really want to use their paycheck to buy the pill, I wont judge them, God will, but you can't compel someone whose belief system is diametrically opposed to the provision of such a drug as a sin against God to pay for it directly. In my opinion, unless you have been raped, you make your bed, now you need to sleep in it. There is no way this is about money because the amount of money we are talking about is INFINITESIMAL compared to all the other conditions and medications they ARE covering with no argument at all. And condemning them for their trading partners is a reach as well.

  85. Jen Jennings

    Wow. Insulting. If I didn't stand up for what I believe in, then I wouldn't have replied to this post Dianne. Also I'm not sure who you are referring to as a scumbag Rich, seeing as I don't pay for birth control. The only person who even had a reply that made any sense was Jordan.. SMH

  86. Jen Jennings

    Wow. Insulting. If I didn't stand up for what I believe in, then I wouldn't have replied to this post Dianne. Also I'm not sure who you are referring to as a scumbag Rich, seeing as I don't pay for birth control. The only person who even had a reply that made any sense was Jordan.. SMH

  87. Rich Kolasa

    All of the future unemployed people will thank you, you stupid narcissistic fuckhead.

  88. Dianne Shaw

    At least they stand up for what they believe in. Probably more than could be said about you.

  89. Rich Kolasa

    You mean Obamao and his cronies? I agree…

  90. Rich Kolasa

    You mean Obamao and his cronies? I agree…

  91. Jordan Hoover

    They are sticking to their beliefs. Whether you appreciate their opinion or not, It shows they are not pushovers and it's a quality most people no longer have. This is another form of tyranny that the Founding Fathers created this country to protect people like David Green. Don't like what the creator of this nation stood for… GTFO!!!

  92. Rich Kolasa

    Hey retard, they're potentially closing stores because of a fascist government threatening their existence. Pay for your own damn birth control, scumbags!

  93. Jordan Hoover

    Marianna Twomey Lange You will be waiting for a while… might wanna grab a sammich.

  94. Cloey Jade

    Jordan Hoover A FRIGGIN MEN! Thank you!

  95. Glena Ferguson

    Jeff Sullivan You're a man, it's a drug of need for women who may or may not have been violated and want to take birth control. My argument still stands, if Hobby Lobby is so MORALLY opposed to this and it has NOTHING to do with money, then why are they giving China BILLIONS of their dollars when they know without a doubt that part of that money pays for abortions, not even birth control.

    It is the employees benefit they earn by working, they should be able to use that benefit however they choose.

    It's all about money, how can anyone not see that? You don't the money your employees EARN to go to birth control but you'll give billions knowing part of that goes to FORCED abortions.

    How to you reconcile that? There is only one answer. It's about the money.

  96. Jeff Sullivan

    Morning after pills are a drug of choice, not of need. Mandated Health care shouldn't be paying for any elective medicines or procedures.

  97. Richard Fitzpatrick

    Hobby lobby buys most of there product from China, the worlds leading country in abortions. They have worst human right in the world. Hobby lobby buy there product, but you don't see them boycotting them

  98. Jamie Pierce

    No trick here to get people riled up again. Unless you are posting old news under the fake (well, not fake but not yours) name Betsy Ross.

  99. Jamie Pierce

    No trick here to get people riled up again. Unless you are posting old news under the fake (well, not fake but not yours) name Betsy Ross.

  100. Glena Ferguson

    So if they win this, how long do you think it will be until they'll be firing employees they find out buy liquor or cigarettes with "their" money.

    The people that work for Hobby Lobby EARN any benefits they get, the WORK for them. The government considers benefits EARNED money. So the employees are purchasing health insurance with their own EARNED money.

    My boss shouldn't tell me what I can and cannot have done regarding my healthcare. It's not their business if I get birth control or not. They aren't really paying for it at all, it's what I WORK for.

    Hobby Lobby isn't even the insurance company that provides the benefits. They are getting in between and employee and their insurance company and trying to dictate what health care services an employee has access too.

    If they are SO against a single dollar of "theirs" (and it's not theirs after an employee earns it) then why in the world are the paying China so much money for the goods they buy from them? Surely that money pays for MANY Government MANDATED abortions but Hobby Lobby doesn't seem to care when it's on the side of them making profits.

    They can say this is about their Godly views all they want but until they stop doing business (and BILLIONS in business) and paying for Foreign women to have abortions, they have no credibility in my book by trying this stance here. For them it's about money here, plain and simple. Just like it's about making money with their dealings with China.

  101. Jamie Pierce

    Well, I have to disagree. If we allow a company to choose what they will and will not pay for, then we have chaos. Companies cover things they don't agree with all the time. Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream doesn't believe in war but they paid soldiers called to Iraq and Afghanistan. So, the argument that someone shouldn't have to cover something they disagree with doesn't hold much water.

  102. Glena Ferguson

    But you have no problem entering into contracts and having your products made by folks in China where abortions are mandatory for much of their female population.

    I guess it's OK to pay money for goods to a Foreign Government that embraces abortion as the norm. Your money is surely going to fund abortions in China for sure.

    I think if an employee works for you, they are given certain benefits, healthcare being one of them. They WORK for those benefits and contribute their own dollars towards their healthcare.

    They should be able to obtain whatever health services they need in the scope of their health. It is their money because they have EARNED it.

    Would you prescribe to tell an employee that they cannot buy liquor with their paycheck because that's really YOUR money paying for it?

    I think you might if you thought you could.

  103. Susan Dyer

    Good Riddance! I hope you close all of your doors. You say your #2 Goal is: (2) to focus on people more than money That is BS! When I went in to get candles at 1/2 price, I brought a hand full to the register that were $4.99. They wouldn't give me 1/2 price because they said it had to be at least $5.00. I told her I would go ahead and give her the penny for each candle to make it $5.00 (contribute to the merchandise I am trying to purchase), but they said "no". That is NOT "focusing on the people more than the money". That is BS. And NO WHERE on the signage was that marked. So BS False Advertising. I hope they close all their doors.

  104. Kaydee Jayne Perkins

    Never give up Hobby Lobby!! You have beautiful beliefs and great products!!! Love your store & i love how you respect your employees by letting them have sundays off to worship God!!

  105. Laurie Panama Mesch

    Seems kinda like a crappy reason to let yourselves be shut down.

  106. Jen Jennings

    Yes, Close a store because you don't want to offer birth control. Makes sense. Morons.

  107. Jeff Jackson

    Anna McCoy I can't believe it. I met another realist.
    Way to go Anna. You're exactly right. Both parties are for something other than the people of America.

  108. Bill Housden

    Bill Neathery The owner of Hobby Lobby lives a 30,000 square foot mansion on the northern shore of the South Canadian River in Oklahoma City.

  109. Bill Housden

    Lee Brau Actually, Lee, med school was free under the Hippocratic Oath which predates Christ by several centuries.

    There is nothing in the Bible that forbids government from funding health care, nor that requires anyone to pay for health care offered free of charge.

    Good riddance to Batty claims. How about that?

  110. Kimberly Rowan Griffith

    I agree History is always relevant! Always. They passed this article off as something that just was written or something that just happened.

  111. Kimberly Rowan Griffith

    Bill Neathery OMW. My point is, they seem to be passing this off as something new. ITS OLD NEWS. They need to specify that in the article. Geez Louise

  112. Lee Brau

    Actually Rudy, health care was not known in the time of Jesus. He would never deny compassionate treatment, but then each person and family was responsible for their own health costs without government mandates. The company owners just don't wish to provide items which may lead to abortions believing life begins at conception. Those I know working for the chain have better than average pay and health insurance. They have never been denied healthcare. Good riddance to your misinterpretation!

  113. Becky Dawes

    Roselle Maggio Portin – What about Birth Control to avoid unwanted pregnancy? Is that considered abortion as well. I'm glad my job has health insurance that WASNT effected by obamacare.

  114. Ed Castillo

    This is old because the lawsuit is being heard by the Supreme Court right now. But I've always thought that if the case goes against Hobby Lobby, they would just close all of their stores but keep their flagship store operating with less than 50 employees in order to avoid the Obamacare nonsense….If the Supreme Court does rule against religious freedom, all H3LL is going to break loose, starting with massive layoffs from Christian owned businesses. But the most damage will happen in the charitable and health care sector from the Catholic Church shuttering all of their hospitals and charitable work with the poor and elderly. The Archbishop of Chicago has already said as much. But this was probably the plan all along to get religion out of the public square.

  115. Roselle Maggio Portin

    abortion is not health care unless the mother is at risk.

  116. Rudy Auerbach

    Good riddance.
    You're not Christians, you're RIGHT WINGERS. Jesus deny healthcare to employees – NEVER HAPPEN!

  117. Bill Neathery

    So is "History" but it is still relevant. As a teacher you know that history should be revisited so we may learn from the successes and failures of our predecessors..

  118. Bill Neathery

    I'm sure the HL founder and his family will not feel much pain if they were to close their doors, not sure their employees would agree.

  119. Bill Neathery

    HL does not enslave it's employees, the employees have a right to terminate their employment with HL at any time they please. HL or any business should not be required to provide a benefit they do not believe in or wish to pay for, just as a prospective employee has a choice who they apply for a position with. If employees are unhappy with the benefit package or lack of they can quit. Bottom line don't accept the HL package and apply for ACA insurance through one of the exchanges, after all our President has provided a very low cost all encompassing option for every American, that is what he told us so it must be true.

  120. Sylvia M Richards

    The CEO of Hobby Lobby wrote this letter before having gone to court? It's the first time I've read it. Thanks. Wondering how the Little Sisters of the Poor and the Bishops are faring with their law suits too. The government needs to quit getting deeper and deeper into our personal lifes and instead concentrate on cleaning house. Equal representation has become self serving for their personal agendas.

  121. Anna McCoy

    If you think things are going to change with the next vote, you don't understand the problem, my friend.

  122. Bill Neathery

    Tania Hale-Klahn You make a good point, People should be able to select the coverage they want and are willing to pay for, a choice not allowed under ACA. Businesses provide benefits as an enticement/retention strategy. People can choose to work or not work for an employer based on the benefit package(s) offered, employee benefit packages should not be mandated by government. Benefit packages should be at the discretion of the employer. If I choose to work for a church of scientology business I would expect to purchase my own health insure, it's not a difficult concept to understand.

  123. Jeff Fawks

    "they are with holding the employees right to choose " Hows that? please explain.

  124. Gail Whaley

    Tania Hale-Klahn Thanks for re-iterating a progressive talking point that has nothing to do with this case nor is it in any way truthful to claim that Hobby Lobby is imposing their beliefs on any employee. They close on Sundays because of their faith in Scripture and the ten commandments to remember the sabbath and keep it Holy. So using your "logic" they must be imposing their beliefs on their employees by not allowing them to work on Sunday! Folks have a choice they can work for anyone they choose but they in return have no right to demand an employer defy their God to appease an employee demand ! Thanks also for evangelizing and telling facebook readers what the "Christian way" according to you is.

  125. Marianna Twomey Lange

    Tania Hale-Klahn LOL! Oh.. so now you believe that Christians should pay for consequences of others unprotected sex? You are really special.. Having diabetes, cancer (which, BTW, I DID manage to fight and so far win – all the while being self employed and unable to afford insurance 14 year ago) aren't even close to comparison with abortion meds. One is for treatment, maintenance of life and the other is for "OOPS! I forgot my condom!"… whatever!

  126. Tania Hale-Klahn

    So if HLs beliefs were Scientology based, would it be ok if they fought to not have diabetic, cancer or other medications in their medical program since Scientologist don't believe in conventional medication? Health care packages comes in part from your paycheck (in most cases) so unless HL is paying 100% its really them pulling the strings of the employees health care which is imposing their belief on others and that is not supposed to be the Christian way.

  127. Gail Whaley

    They are NOT taking away or withholding any employees right to choose they are defending their religious right not to have to fund an act they deem is against their faith in God! The employee can afford to pay for their choices!

  128. Patty Nardi

    It may be old news, but today it is a reminder, of what is happening and going to continue to happen if we don't vote the commies out in 2014.

  129. Dottie Williams

    Generating old news sometimes awakens us to news we might not have received the first time around. HL does NOT close early. It closes at 8 p.m., then the employes have to stay after to clean and prepare for the next day. By the time they leave, is there REALLY time for FAMILY TIME each evening? Just saying, this man touts that he is about family, and stated that HL closes early each day to allow for family time for employees. Maybe HIS family, but not employees families. Is this man Catholic? Is that the reason for his remark re:exemption? Gotta give this ma n kudos for standing his ground, but not for lying. If one is going to make statements, make the statements TRUTHFUL.

  130. Philip L Borkholder

    Oh the naive American business men who let ideology trump actual business sense… if you go out of business, you have no one to blame but yourself.

  131. Alli Abram-Sheldon

    Doesn't matter if its going on for some time or not. The point is, no one should be forced to go against their religious (or even personal) beliefs just because the Gov. says they have to, while exempting others from doing it. If a woman wants to get the morning after pill because she's too lazy to get on the pill or buy a condom for one of her many one night stands, then she should be able to fork over her own money to pay for it. Heck thanks to Obama, many can get Birth Control for free from a pharmacist (w/a prescription). So there's no excuse as to why this company has to be forced to do something against their belief's. Their employees get paid well enough

  132. Marianna Twomey Lange

    They aren't withholding anything. They can pay for it on their own.. or perhaps practice control? Sorta like we did!

  133. Crista Stout Rivenbark

    They can simply buy their own abortion drugs….HL pays them more than minimum wage and often more than competing companies do in the same areas. So why can't these employees take that money to buy their abortion drugs instead of crying foul. Then employees that don't want to kill their children can take that "bonus money" and spend it on other things instead of making less and having insurance that covers things they don't want either. Sounds like a win win to me. (and since the money is from their salary from HL they can even say that HL paid for them to kill their baby, so they can feel good about it at that end too.)

  134. Mary Hartwig

    The employee can still chose… hobby lobby is just not going to pay for it. The employee can pay to kill their own baby.

  135. Marianna Twomey Lange

    It got me to read it as well.. and to ask my liberal friends to explain to me how this does NOT go against everything our country was founded upon.. How do they justify it?
    I'm still waiting for their response.

  136. Sharon R Weber

    These people can go work somewhere else that will fund their bad judgement!

  137. Janice Mundy

    SHOULD READ

  138. Janice Mundy

    SHOULD READ

  139. Crista Stout Rivenbark

    Yes, I'm confused. Why are you posting this now…this is an old letter, before the court battles started. I clicked on this to see if something new has happened and if they were really going to have to close (we JUST got one where I live in the last year or so) and I click on here and it's no new news….not even any news, just the original letter…… Kind of lame if you ask me.

  140. Edward Boyd

    at 80% more than min wage, they can afford to pay for their own!

  141. Deb Seline

    Tania–If you want to pay for contraception, nothing is stopping you–but HL will not pay for it for you. Get it? HL does not say that if one of their employees uses these drugs they are fired. It just won't participate it what it believes is murder.

  142. Tania Hale-Klahn

    This has been going on for some time with Hobby Lobby. But I have to believe that some of the people HL employs are not of the same mind when it comes to contraception. Which means they are with holding the employees right to choose which is also a fundamental right.

  143. Kerrie Lee Wagenknecht

    Its new to me…glad I read it…

  144. Ted Griffith

    Jordan Hoover Slight of hand, quick exchange, the old tricks have been rearranged.

  145. Ted Griffith

    Jordan Hoover Slight of hand, quick exchange, the old tricks have been rearranged.

  146. Jordan Hoover

    Ted Griffith I agree… It's slight of hand!

  147. Ted Griffith

    Jordan Hoover Bread and Circus = Justin B.

  148. Ted Griffith

    Jordan Hoover Bread and Circus = Justin B.

  149. Kimberly Rowan Griffith

    This is old!!!

  150. Jordan Hoover

    It got me to read it… and I learned quite a bit. Old news is still information last time I checked. Sensationalism is a MSNBC anchorwoman interrupting a Congresswoman talking about the Gov't/ NSA spying on everyone to go to "breaking news" in big red letters about Justin Beiber being in court for drag racing his supercar high on prescription drugs and booze.

  151. Beverly Neal

    Someone is circulating OLD news. Hobby Lobby is fighting in court and so far is winning. It's a long battle but Hobby Lobby has not and will not give up. The title of this is very misleading and could be called 'sensationalism'.